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Offline ziggy_wolf  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 12:30:16 AM(UTC)
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Will there be beer?
I could bring some homebrewed mead, if I can charm it of off the neighbor. As for activitywize I`d like to see some sort of entertainment, Either a movieweiving, theater, standupshow, or maybe even a concert?

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:14:53 PM(UTC)
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*chuckles* I'm sure the hotel will have drinks, they generally though don't like you bringing your own in and consuming it in public. However if it's kept in your room and not taken out there's not normally a problem.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 3, 2012 6:29:30 PM(UTC)
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As our hotel is not really big enough for an indoor only parade and the weather is not 100% predictable it is still unsure if we will have a fursuit parade ... but never say never

Originally Posted by: ziggy_wolf Go to Quoted Post
Will there be beer? I could bring some homebrewed mead, if I can charm it of off the neighbor.


Regarding beer and stuff. The hotel has two bars where you can buy drinks.

Before you bring any drinks from the outside please have a look at the Swedish law situation. According to that it is not allowed to bring alcoholic drinks with more than 3,5% onto hotel premises. They have to be bought from the hotel. This is the limit of stuff being sold in a supermarket. Everything above is bound to strict permits from the state.

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#4 Posted : Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:02:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sfw Go to Quoted Post
*chuckles* I'm sure the hotel will have drinks, they generally though don't like you bringing your own in and consuming it in public. However if it's kept in your room and not taken out there's not normally a problem.

(Not official NFC response, your actual mileage may vary).


I guess international snack panel would be off suggestion then? I didn't know about it being held until I had already reached EF, but Estonian wines brought to wine tasting panel of EF were mild success. :)

Also, will there be boardgaming? I would bring some!
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:06:21 AM(UTC)
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I guess international snack panel would be off suggestion then? I didn't know about it being held until I had already reached EF, but Estonian wines brought to wine tasting panel of EF were mild success. :)


I don't think wine would go under the snack category. ;)

I'm sorry I missed the wine tasting panel at EF, though! Really wanted to attend that, but time just wasn't with me. In fact, I pretty much missed out on all the panels I wanted to attend this year. Ah well.

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:22:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NewEinstein Go to Quoted Post
Before you bring any drinks from the outside please have a look at the Swedish law situation. According to that it is not allowed to bring alcoholic drinks with more than 3,5% onto hotel premises. They have to be bought from the hotel. This is the limit of stuff being sold in a supermarket. Everything above is bound to strict permits from the state.


Out of curiousity, and not wanting for one second to arouse suspicion, what is the penalty for bringing Class III alcohol into a hotel room? Apart from, I'm assuming, expulsion from the con? Heavy fine? Community service? Jail term?
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:44:28 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Equium Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NewEinstein Go to Quoted Post
Before you bring any drinks from the outside please have a look at the Swedish law situation. According to that it is not allowed to bring alcoholic drinks with more than 3,5% onto hotel premises. They have to be bought from the hotel. This is the limit of stuff being sold in a supermarket. Everything above is bound to strict permits from the state.


Out of curiousity, and not wanting for one second to arouse suspicion, what is the penalty for bringing Class III alcohol into a hotel room? Apart from, I'm assuming, expulsion from the con? Heavy fine? Community service? Jail term?


Class 3 alcohol??? like 100% pure ethanol i assume?
other than to fuel a car or K.O someone with a shot of that stuff i see no real reason to even have that X3
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:34:19 PM(UTC)
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Class 3 alcohol??? like 100% pure ethanol i assume?
other than to fuel a car or K.O someone with a shot of that stuff i see no real reason to even have that X3


Well, the source I have splits "beer" into three classes and I wondered if all alcohol was the same. With beer, Class I is anything between 0%-2.25% alcohol, Class II is 2.25%-3.5%, and Class III is 3.5%+.

Anyway, I've called a Swedish Travel helpline (for we have one) and they've said that taking alcohol into a hotel room is prohibited at all costs, like Miles suggested. So whereas we're allowed and used to taking many bottles into our rooms at good ol' UK conventions, Sweden is a little more strict, and we're ONLY allowed to buy drinks at the hotel bar. So no drunken room parties! XD
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#9 Posted : Saturday, October 27, 2012 2:06:38 PM(UTC)
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Can people be KOed by one shot of moonshine? Maybe if they have some sort of ilness I supose, never seen it happen though. So we can bring hard sider and beer up to 3,5 but heavier arteiery is no go, sounds like a paradox.

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#10 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:22:51 AM(UTC)
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If you by Moonshine means home brewed alcohol Id guess that would fall under the swedish homebrewing laws and is considered illegal items. Bringing it from other countries through customs also risks you getting caught there, so it will be highly unrecomendeble!

Remember that there is severel laws and rules in play when considering to bring youre own liquer to an hotel, or other public area! And thats specially thrue when traveling from another country. Youll have laws like bringing alcohol to public places, customes and tax laws, a general rule against importing alcohol not for personal use and behavior rules set by the con and the hotel, for example.

So be sure to check the rules before bringing alcohols of any sorts!
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:38:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Equium Go to Quoted Post
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Class 3 alcohol??? like 100% pure ethanol i assume?
other than to fuel a car or K.O someone with a shot of that stuff i see no real reason to even have that X3


Well, the source I have splits "beer" into three classes and I wondered if all alcohol was the same. With beer, Class I is anything between 0%-2.25% alcohol, Class II is 2.25%-3.5%, and Class III is 3.5%+.

Anyway, I've called a Swedish Travel helpline (for we have one) and they've said that taking alcohol into a hotel room is prohibited at all costs, like Miles suggested. So whereas we're allowed and used to taking many bottles into our rooms at good ol' UK conventions, Sweden is a little more strict, and we're ONLY allowed to buy drinks at the hotel bar. So no drunken room parties! XD


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#12 Posted : Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:19:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Equium Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: NewEinstein Go to Quoted Post
Before you bring any drinks from the outside please have a look at the Swedish law situation. According to that it is not allowed to bring alcoholic drinks with more than 3,5% onto hotel premises. They have to be bought from the hotel. This is the limit of stuff being sold in a supermarket. Everything above is bound to strict permits from the state.


Out of curiousity, and not wanting for one second to arouse suspicion, what is the penalty for bringing Class III alcohol into a hotel room? Apart from, I'm assuming, expulsion from the con? Heavy fine? Community service? Jail term?



Hahaha, Im very suspicious!

I have a big glass, mind if I join the party in your room? :P


What do you think the penalty will be for hotel staff that uses a master key to randomly run into locked hotel rooms invading the privacy of the guests?
Expulsion from the con? Heavy fine? Community service? Jail term? Firing squad? :b

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#13 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:56:36 PM(UTC)
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There had been a discussion in the events thread about the situation if alcohol can be brought into the hotel. Just not to clog up that thread it was suggested to make an extra one ... good idea ... so here it is.

Quick info about the legal situation:

The hotel has a license to sell alcohol. That is needed in Sweden for all restaurants who want to sell drinks with more than 3.5% alcohol. Drinks with less alcohol in it can also be purchased in the next supermarket and are by that no problem at all. Those can also be brought into the hotel and into your rooms. We just ask you - as it is common sense - not to consume those in the public space of the hotel but bring them directly into your room.

We have to focus on the drinks above 3.5% ... because these are bound to special laws in Sweden. They can only be purchased in state owned shops (Systembolaget) or in restaurants which have a license. This license is also limited in time. For example in our hotel to 2AM at night. In the case that you bring drinks with more than 3.5% onto hotel premises and police finds out about that the hotel will loose its license. So that is also why we and the hotel will have an eye on what is happening. Every alcohol purchased outside and brought into the hotel will be confiscated and we will discuss what to do with the one who brought it in. That can go up to being banned from the con and removed from the hotel.

So we ask you to bring only drinks with no alcohol or below 3.5% into the hotel. Any other drinks need to be purchased from the hotel bar and consumed within its opening hours. Everything else will get you and us into trouble.

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:34:53 PM(UTC)
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I suppose one should also mention that consumption of alcohol in public spaces, i.e. not inside restaurants that have a serving permit or in ones own residence, is also forbidden, except for certain public places; And even these usually have limitations on when you can consume alcohol, and when you cannot.

Public intoxication is also not recommended, as both the police and "Ordningsvakter" (OV, Peace keeping officers) can take you into custody to sober up, usually referred to as LoB. Basically, if you are too intoxicated that you cannot take care of yourself, or you pose a risk to your own person or other persons, you can be taken in to sober up in a holding cell.

Just some short info, since I know Swedish laws regarding alcohol are a lot tougher than most countries within the EU, and even outside.

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#15 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:39:45 AM(UTC)
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It's also worth noting that the Systembolaget (or my favorite shorter version The System) has highly restricted hours and will often be a lot shorter then people might expect.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:53:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NewEinstein Go to Quoted Post
In the case that you bring drinks with more than 3.5% onto hotel premises and police finds out about that the hotel will loose its license. So that is also why we and the hotel will have an eye on what is happening. Every alcohol purchased outside and brought into the hotel will be confiscated and we will discuss what to do with the one who brought it in. That can go up to being banned from the con and removed from the hotel.

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hi... this is strange for me, as I have visited Sweden several times and do not meet such rigidity... 2 years ago I was in Stockholm on science-fiction Eurocon and there were evening parties in area of university and roomparties in hotel, where lot of alcohol (bringed from local shops or direct abroad) was consumed publically and nobody from organisators or hotel or university told anything against...

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#17 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:52:45 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: greylion Go to Quoted Post

hi... this is strange for me, as I have visited Sweden several times and do not meet such rigidity... 2 years ago I was in Stockholm on science-fiction Eurocon and there were evening parties in area of university and roomparties in hotel, where lot of alcohol (bringed from local shops or direct abroad) was consumed publically and nobody from organisators or hotel or university told anything against...

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Universities have different rules when it comes to alcohol consumption than the general public; And from what I could gather from viewing the rules of Eurocon for the duration of which it were in Sweden, it explicitly states that ".. Alcohol bought at the bar may not be consumed outdoors or on the ground floor." and "No alcohol bought elsewhere than at the bar may be consumed on the premises."

And since Systemet was mentioned, I thought I might as well post the info for anyone who might be interested. Systembolaget has the following open hours: 10 to 6 Monday to Friday; 10 - 1 on Saturday; On Sundays it is closed.

While you have to be 18 to buy alcohol in bars, you have to be 20 to buy it from Systemet, It would also be advisable to carry your ID with you if you are buying.

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#18 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:47:17 PM(UTC)
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So we ask you to bring only drinks with no alcohol or below 3.5% into the hotel. Any other drinks need to be purchased from the hotel bar and consumed within its opening hours. Everything else will get you and us into trouble.

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Do you know if the hotel prices are ok or not? How much does a beer or a drink cost?

Also, does the bar accept Visa card or Drinker^H^H I mean Diners Club?




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#19 Posted : Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:50:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: leomi Go to Quoted Post
Do you know if the hotel prices are ok or not? How much does a beer or a drink cost?


We are working with the hotel to get lower prices from them: I don't have the final prices yet but they will be below the normal ones.

Originally Posted by: leomi Go to Quoted Post
Also, does the bar accept Visa card or Drinker^H^H I mean Diners Club?


The hotel accepts credit cards like Visa or MasterCard ... they are very widely used in Sweden

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#20 Posted : Sunday, February 3, 2013 6:51:15 PM(UTC)
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I can ad that there isnt obvously controlls everywhere since we arent a police state, but places like the subway and the hotel are forced to be somewhat extra carefull due to that they want they none drinking clients safe and sound, and Ill guess the con runners also will keep an eyo out for thoose that risks the safety of others due to unsound drinking.

I can also ad that a con like this is a place where you can expect a lot off people wearing rather expencive costumes (aka fursuits) and thus dont want to risk them getting spoiled by alcoholic bevareges or uncarefull drunk peoples, so if nothing else that would be a neat reason to be somewhat moderate on the drinking side, plus that youll risk getting banned from the con if you find youreself getting caught by breaking swedish alcohol laws, its really a sad way to end a great time!
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