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Offline Mooie  
#21 Posted : Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:11:37 PM(UTC)
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Right, let's bring up the nice little itty bitty details about the Swedish law about alcohol. And I'm sorry, but I'm not going to translate this, so Google translate will have to help you. :P

I alkohollagens sjätte kapitel, paragraf åtta och nio;

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8 § Från ett serveringsställe där serveringstillstånd gäller får inte någon medföra eller tillåtas medföra spritdrycker, vin eller starköl som har serverats där. Detta gäller inte hotellrum med minibar.

Denna paragraf tar upp att alkohol som sålts på ett ställe med serveringstillstånd, ej får medföras från serveringsstället. Alltså får alkohol som sålts i bar eller restaurang ej medtagas från nämnd bar eller restaurang.


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9 § På serveringsställe där serveringstillstånd gäller får inte någon dricka eller tillåtas dricka andra alkoholdrycker än sådana som har serverats i enlighet med tillståndet. Detta gäller dock inte på hotellrum.
Inte heller får någon dricka eller tillåtas dricka alkoholdrycker på ett serveringsställe där alkoholdrycker inte får serveras eller i en lokal, som yrkesmässigt upplåts för anordnande av sådana sammankomster i slutna sällskap vid vilka mat eller dryck tillhandahålls av innehavaren eller genom dennes försorg och där servering av alkoholdrycker inte är tillåten.
Alkoholdrycker som inte får serveras i en lokal som avses i denna paragraf får inte heller förvaras i sådan lokal eller tillhörande utrymmen.
Förbuden enligt denna paragraf gäller inte i fråga om öl. Lag (2005:470).

Denna, lite mer intressanta paragraf, syftar på alkohol som medtages till ett serveringsställe som har ett serveringstillstånd. Och absolut, det är strikt förbjudet att ta med alkohol dit. Alltså till barer, restuaranger och liknande. Läser man vidare i första stycket, så står där "Detta gäller dock inte på hotellrum.".


So, back to English;

No, there is nothing in the Swedish law, which prohibits alcohol from the outside, to be brought up to your hotel room.

With that said, though, and as has been stated earlier in this thread, Swedish authorities are mandated to take care of people who are clearly under the influence of alcohol. Now, in practice this is quite often not realised, unless people really are off their tits.

And, even if we, by law, aren't prohibited to bring alcohol to the hotel rooms, it's not to be seen as a right. Hotels are free to state their own regulations in the matter, which also is true when it comes to food from the outside - but in reality, I've yet to hear about a hotel which have regulated against that.

Of course the hotel definitely would rather see if their customers bought food and drinks from their own establishments, but most accept that brought food and drinks are consumed in the hotel rooms.

Anyway, after this little addition to this thread, the convention is about having a great time, with or without a little drink along the road. Keep the alcohol consumption to reasonable levels and the stay will be more pleasant for all. :-)

See you all in less than three weeks!
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#22 Posted : Monday, March 11, 2013 2:47:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mooie Go to Quoted Post


No, there is nothing in the Swedish law, which prohibits alcohol from the outside, to be brought up to your hotel room.



yes, this is as I know Swedish law about alcohol, as I travelled to Sweden several times and got soem friends there. It is not allowed to drink outside alcohol in public area of hotel, but you can bring it to hotel room and drink it there. Hotel room is considered as your personal area (this is everywhere in EU).
So from my view it is against law to forbid to bring alcohol into the rooms and drink it there...

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#23 Posted : Monday, March 11, 2013 3:34:56 PM(UTC)
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Every alcohol purchased outside and brought into the hotel will be confiscated and we will discuss what to do with the one who brought it in. That can go up to being banned from the con and removed from the hotel.
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Will you or hotel check anybodys luggage? This can be consider as breaking personal rights and if it happen guest can call police assistance before suitcase will be open as just police can make checking or personal things (andhere in czech with with court permition only)...
Even as Swedish law do not ban alcohol inside rented room - as this is consider as personal area... See quotation of the law in other message in this thread...

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Offline GreyLion  
#24 Posted : Monday, March 11, 2013 3:37:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mooie Go to Quoted Post
Right, let's bring up the nice little itty bitty details about the Swedish law about alcohol. And I'm sorry, but I'm not going to translate this, so Google translate will have to help you. :P


can you sent me link to this law? I would like to print it and bring with me, if anybody would like break my personal law rules...

thanks

GL
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#25 Posted : Monday, March 11, 2013 3:47:29 PM(UTC)
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As someone wrote. Do not flash it if you have it and keep it out of sight.

*Not an official post*


that is very good and wisely meaning...
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#26 Posted : Monday, March 11, 2013 3:50:45 PM(UTC)
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Regarding alcohol and hotel rooms. We have relayed the information that was provided to us by the hotel.

When reading the law it looks, to me, that it's possible to drink it but not bring it. I have contacted the hotel today regarding this and asked them to look into it again. We are awaiting their response in this matter.

Originally Posted by: GreyLion Go to Quoted Post

Will you or hotel check anybodys luggage? ....
GL


No one will check your bag as it's personal property.
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Offline pycnopodia  
#27 Posted : Monday, March 11, 2013 5:41:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: trax Go to Quoted Post
Regarding alcohol and hotel rooms. We have relayed the information that was provided to us by the hotel.

When reading the law it looks, to me, that it's possible to drink it but not bring it. I have contacted the hotel today regarding this and asked them to look into it again. We are awaiting their response in this matter.

Originally Posted by: GreyLion Go to Quoted Post

Will you or hotel check anybodys luggage? ....
GL


No one will check your bag as it's personal property.


"Due to Swedish law it is not permitted to bring alcohol purchased outside of the hotel onto hotel premises, including your hotel room. Only alcoholic drinks purchased from the hotel are allowed."
http://www.nordicfuzzcon.org/Home/Rules

I think what they mean is that its against the law to bring alcohol onto the hotel premises, and a hotel policy not to allow outside alcohol in your room.
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Offline sfw  
#28 Posted : Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:43:42 AM(UTC)
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Greylion, please do not post individual replies to each item, either use multiquote or type the things you wish to reply to in one post and edit it as needed. It keeps things a lot easier to read through on the threads.
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#29 Posted : Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:20:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: pycnopodia Go to Quoted Post


"Due to Swedish law it is not permitted to bring alcohol purchased outside of the hotel onto hotel premises, including your hotel room.



That is not true - see message 21 in this thread
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:25:00 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: greylion Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: pycnopodia Go to Quoted Post


"Due to Swedish law it is not permitted to bring alcohol purchased outside of the hotel onto hotel premises, including your hotel room.



That is not true - see message 21 in this thread


Yep, and the hotel may be aware of it but worded their rules like that for simplicity.

Regardless of the law, the hotel is a private property and the owner can decide if he wishes to allow guests to bring outside alcohol into their rooms or not.


There is another possibility too, that the only reason the hotel will not allow outside alcohol to be brought into hotel rooms is they made a mistake and think its illegal to do so.

Some clarification from the hotel would be nice because its not clear if the ban on outside alcohol in rooms is a hotel policy or if the hotel have no issue with it.
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Offline trax  
#31 Posted : Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:53:35 PM(UTC)
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Ok, we have asked the hotel and also received a reply. I have translated the reply and posted it below. It's up to you how you interpret the response.

Email translated from Swedish to English as accurately as possible:
"Since 2011 the law has been changed in that regard that it is allowed, according to the law, to drink alcohol bought from outside the hotel inside the hotel rooms. It is still prohibited, according to the law, to drink alcohol bought from outside the hotel outside the hotel rooms (example: corridors, lobby, sauna etc). We still withhold our policy that it is not allowed, in our hotel, to bring alcohol bought from outside the hotel premises."
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